The encyclopedia says about the dating of Revelations, and actually predates all NT books... When christianity claims that the NT was released in the 4th century, we find that the books are actually used before the 4th century C.E.
"Church Fathers weighed in on the authorship of Revelation. Justin Martyr avows his belief in its apostolic origin. Irenaeus (178) assumes it as a conceded point. At the end of the 2nd century, we find it accepted at Antioch, by Theophilus, and in Africa by Tertullian. At the beginning of the 3rd century, it is adopted by Clement of Alexandria and by Origen, later by Methodius, Cyprian, and Lactantius. Dionysius of Alexandria (247) rejected it, upon doctrinal rather than critical grounds. Eusebius (315) suspended his judgment, hesitating between the external and internal evidence. Some canons, especially in the Eastern Church, rejected the book, while most others included it."
"The dating of the work is still widely debated in the scholarly community."
So, where can we turn to find evidence for the dating of Revelation? Within the book itself! It will be shown, from internal evidence, that Revelation was written before the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.
Now if you believe that the Hebrew Israelites were the true authors of Revelations, it would have to be written way before then, but it's given a late date even for an old testament book...
"During the last century, the critics of Germany have assailed the Apocalypse, denying, in the most positive terms, that it can have been written by the apostle John. Thus De Wette says: ‘Nothing stands so firm as that the apostle John—if he be the writer of the Gospel, and the first Epistle—did not write the Apocalypse;’ and Ewald says: ‘That the Apocalypse was not written by the same hand which wrote the Gospel and the Epistle, is clear as the light of the sun.’ The principal objection to the Johannean origin of the Apocalypse grows out of its style—its peculiar words and phrases; an argument by which this class of critics have shown themselves able to prove or disprove almost anything; by which they have proved that Moses did not write the Pentateuch, nor Daniel his prophecies, nor the Evangelists the Gospels which bear their names; by which they have proved that Homer did not write his poems, nor Plato his dialogues, nor Cicero but a part of his orations.
The style of the Apocalypse is not more different from that of the other writings of John, than is the subject, the method, the object of the composition. How is it possible, in writing such a book as that before us,—made up, in great part, of visions, types, and symbolic representations,—that the style should not differ from that of a plain historic narrative, or a familiar loving epistle? Any competent critic would decide before hand that there must be peculiar expressions, and wide diversity of style. " Enoch Pond - Theology
Yeah it's pretty clear as day not only are we talking about a separate john, not john the baptist, it wasn't written by this man... He may have modified it, but it's been played with to a certain extent... Now just take a look at the dates of the Dead Sea scrolls compared to Revelations, and you will see that they relate closer than the later 4th Century C.E. gospels... Just looking at dating alone...
Monday, August 27, 2007
Prequal Introduction to Solar Worship (1)
will prove that it is a Contradiction to be a ZIONIST AND WORSHIP JESUS!!!!!!
I will use dimensions if it will help...
Okay lets stop playing games and jump on the time machine... Lets set the machine back to about 3500 B.C. A long time before christ existed... There was a man name Nimrod... Nimrod is of course the father of babylon... This man had a wife name Semiramis, we will get into her in just a second, but lets get into her son... Tammuz... After Nimrod was killed he was not only declared the father of Babylon, he was declared an ascension to the sun... And This the Father... Tummuz himself loved little rabbits, he thought they were so cute, also his mother had to take care of him he was a hunter like dad if I can remember right, but point being this kids mother name was actually Ishtar... Ishtar begin to create a religion of where she was an Egg who descended from the moon landed on earth which it cracked and spread her wisdom all throughout babylon... I can't make this stuff up people, its written down... Tammuz was killed by a pick of pigs while hunting one day... Ishtar was devastated... She demanded that babylon not eat pig to recognize the day of his death and she declared that he also had ascended to the sun... Now we have the Father and the Sun, and Ishtar declared herself the holy spirit... Completing the dimensions of the holiday Easter...
Whew what a trip... Now I'm not done, I something isn't quite concluded... This Christmas, how does it connect to Tammuz and Easter And Jesus? Well lets use this time machine to travel to egypt... We will only need to travel forward maybe a couple hundred years to get to the era I'm looking for okay where here! 2550 B.C. There is a deity here named Horus... Very interesting character, why? Because he also suppose to merge with Ra, the other sun god, and turn into a falcon... But they didn't ever saw a two headed falcon used as a 33 degree masonic emblem? I did just today... Anyway... So we have another sun god so what... Lets look at how he was worshiped for just a second... Well they pointed to the sun to refer to Horus of course, but why is this so interesting? Well there is in the Northern Hemisphere where egypt is what happens toward the end of December called the Winter Solstice... Where the sun dies, and rises in resurrection on the 25, after dying on the 22nd... If your not sure of the whole science of the matter you can type Winter Solstice into google and your preferred encyclopedia should have it...
Okay now when you look at this you start to notice that Jesus does nothing put merge these two deities together into one huge mythology...
Tammuz was worshiped with a lower case "t" that man people had tattooed on themselves after his death by the way... So why does jesus even exist, well your enemies played a cruel joke on you... The jews needed to distract the whole world, and just in case people started to question who the Holy People actually are, they declared themselves the holy people(Hint BHI began in 1818, Jew didn't have territory until 1946)... So back to Jesus, so why would they merge Tammuz and Horus, to who's advantage would it be? Well sorry if I add a bit of conspiracy theory to this because there are so many dimensions to this world, that they all merge at some point... The Jews actually account for the Masons... To say jew, and to say masons, is like saying Hebrew, Israelite... Yes they are virtually the same thing, if thats what you are thinking... The jews will never ever in the history of Judaic doctrine deny that jesus has ever existed yet the deny him as the messiah for 2 reasons... One They created jesus to distract the world into thinking that you wont have to answer to Israel just to have you soul saved, in that case we would hold Israel a bit more accountable for their actions now sense they were suppose to be prophetic return from the old testament after WW2... Jesus keeps the focus on himself, and off the wrongs of Israel... Now that is just one reason... The second is, jew will never deny he existed in history for one reason... The jews have so much power and money, they have actually confused education itself... Some sources will tell you the Israelites left after 300 B.C. and some sources will tell you they stayed! Which one is it? Of course it would have to be the first for African Americans be judah, but if the jews never had left, jesus could claim his right linage of David the jews could claim their right to the linage of judah themselves, and the world has their savior... Everybody is happy.. So technically, without jesus, jews would have absolutely no right to be any where near jesus... But while you continue to worship, this rendition of Tammuz and Horus/Ra(ASTROLOGY), we prolong your own return to Israel... This is hows JEWS/MASONS work, after studying them for years, I have noticed they think ahead of you so that you will never find the truth that Yahweh and Yahweh alone is our savior... The messiah will come and focus on the establishment of Israel, not necessarily the whole world although he will bring an inevitable peace, the complex of the real Emmanuel's mission is a bit more complex than jesus(Superman), save the world doctrine... Well that's about it, I won't conclude this without discussion or debate... Let's go people... Drop the jesus crap so we can get back on track, Lets the jews keep their Jesus/Horus/Ra/Tammuz/Superman/Sun etc.. etc... How can you be for Zion and Babylon? We don't have time for it... Do the research yourself folks... YAHWEH IS THE ONLY TRUE LIGHT HALLELUYAHWEH
I will use dimensions if it will help...
Okay lets stop playing games and jump on the time machine... Lets set the machine back to about 3500 B.C. A long time before christ existed... There was a man name Nimrod... Nimrod is of course the father of babylon... This man had a wife name Semiramis, we will get into her in just a second, but lets get into her son... Tammuz... After Nimrod was killed he was not only declared the father of Babylon, he was declared an ascension to the sun... And This the Father... Tummuz himself loved little rabbits, he thought they were so cute, also his mother had to take care of him he was a hunter like dad if I can remember right, but point being this kids mother name was actually Ishtar... Ishtar begin to create a religion of where she was an Egg who descended from the moon landed on earth which it cracked and spread her wisdom all throughout babylon... I can't make this stuff up people, its written down... Tammuz was killed by a pick of pigs while hunting one day... Ishtar was devastated... She demanded that babylon not eat pig to recognize the day of his death and she declared that he also had ascended to the sun... Now we have the Father and the Sun, and Ishtar declared herself the holy spirit... Completing the dimensions of the holiday Easter...
Whew what a trip... Now I'm not done, I something isn't quite concluded... This Christmas, how does it connect to Tammuz and Easter And Jesus? Well lets use this time machine to travel to egypt... We will only need to travel forward maybe a couple hundred years to get to the era I'm looking for okay where here! 2550 B.C. There is a deity here named Horus... Very interesting character, why? Because he also suppose to merge with Ra, the other sun god, and turn into a falcon... But they didn't ever saw a two headed falcon used as a 33 degree masonic emblem? I did just today... Anyway... So we have another sun god so what... Lets look at how he was worshiped for just a second... Well they pointed to the sun to refer to Horus of course, but why is this so interesting? Well there is in the Northern Hemisphere where egypt is what happens toward the end of December called the Winter Solstice... Where the sun dies, and rises in resurrection on the 25, after dying on the 22nd... If your not sure of the whole science of the matter you can type Winter Solstice into google and your preferred encyclopedia should have it...
Okay now when you look at this you start to notice that Jesus does nothing put merge these two deities together into one huge mythology...
Tammuz was worshiped with a lower case "t" that man people had tattooed on themselves after his death by the way... So why does jesus even exist, well your enemies played a cruel joke on you... The jews needed to distract the whole world, and just in case people started to question who the Holy People actually are, they declared themselves the holy people(Hint BHI began in 1818, Jew didn't have territory until 1946)... So back to Jesus, so why would they merge Tammuz and Horus, to who's advantage would it be? Well sorry if I add a bit of conspiracy theory to this because there are so many dimensions to this world, that they all merge at some point... The Jews actually account for the Masons... To say jew, and to say masons, is like saying Hebrew, Israelite... Yes they are virtually the same thing, if thats what you are thinking... The jews will never ever in the history of Judaic doctrine deny that jesus has ever existed yet the deny him as the messiah for 2 reasons... One They created jesus to distract the world into thinking that you wont have to answer to Israel just to have you soul saved, in that case we would hold Israel a bit more accountable for their actions now sense they were suppose to be prophetic return from the old testament after WW2... Jesus keeps the focus on himself, and off the wrongs of Israel... Now that is just one reason... The second is, jew will never deny he existed in history for one reason... The jews have so much power and money, they have actually confused education itself... Some sources will tell you the Israelites left after 300 B.C. and some sources will tell you they stayed! Which one is it? Of course it would have to be the first for African Americans be judah, but if the jews never had left, jesus could claim his right linage of David the jews could claim their right to the linage of judah themselves, and the world has their savior... Everybody is happy.. So technically, without jesus, jews would have absolutely no right to be any where near jesus... But while you continue to worship, this rendition of Tammuz and Horus/Ra(ASTROLOGY), we prolong your own return to Israel... This is hows JEWS/MASONS work, after studying them for years, I have noticed they think ahead of you so that you will never find the truth that Yahweh and Yahweh alone is our savior... The messiah will come and focus on the establishment of Israel, not necessarily the whole world although he will bring an inevitable peace, the complex of the real Emmanuel's mission is a bit more complex than jesus(Superman), save the world doctrine... Well that's about it, I won't conclude this without discussion or debate... Let's go people... Drop the jesus crap so we can get back on track, Lets the jews keep their Jesus/Horus/Ra/Tammuz/Supe
Death of the New Testament (2)
Here it is, the anticipated Death of the New Testament...
Please don't mind the almost relaxed format, I didn't want to bore anyone with this sizable document... If their are any misspells I apologize ahead of time, another long document written by hand.. Lets not waist time and get to it Israelites! Your gospels of Matthew, mark, luke, and john die today...Please bless my work Yahweh...
(Catholic Encyclopedias, Preface) admits that the Gospels "do not go back to the first century of the Christian era" (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, p. 137, pp. 655-6).
Well how long do they go back?
the Church further admits that
"the earliest of the existant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD" (Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).
Well we have a problem this is about 350 years off... So why does this matter? Because The New Testament is actually written during a time when presbyters were corrupt, and worshiping pagan gods...
"The majority of modern-day Christian writers suppress the truth about the
development of their religion and conceal Constantine's efforts to curb the
disreputable character of the presbyters who are now called "Church Fathers"
(Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. xiv, pp. 370-1). They were
"maddened", he said (Life of Constantine, attributed to Eusebius Pamphilius
of Caesarea, c. 335, vol. iii, p. 171; The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers,
cited as N&PNF, attributed to St Ambrose, Rev. Prof. Roberts, DD, and
Principal James Donaldson, LLD, editors, 1891, vol. iv, p. 467)."
Okay in case you still aren't starting to feel the affects...
there is a reason there were no New Testaments until the fourth century, they weren't written until this time...Some major things go on in 4th Century that will lead us to understand some of the points I make later... Lets look at some of the Major events:
"301: Armenia first to adopt Christianity as state religion"
"306–337: Constantine I, ends persecution of Christians in the Roman Empire,
calls First Council of Nicaea, see also Constantinian shift, Constantinople
becomes new seat of government (New Rome)"
Their is a conflict in history books here. Now, were at the point of history
vs fact. Contrary to popular belief, which so many historians are love to
support, that Constantine
"embraced the Christian religion" and subsequently granted "official
toleration", is "contrary to historical fact" and should be erased from our
literature forever (Catholic Encyclopedia, Pecci ed., vol. iii, p. 299,
passim). Simply put, there was no Christian religion at Constantine's time,
and the Church acknowledges that the tale of his "conversion" and "baptism"
are "entirely legendary" (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. xiv, pp. 370-1).
Constantine "never acquired a solid theological knowledge" and "depended
heavily on his advisers in religious questions" (Catholic Encyclopedia, New
Edition, vol. xii, p. 576, passim)."
Whoa wait, take this in...
"According to Eusebeius (260-339), Constantine noted that among the
Presbyterian factions "strife had grown so serious, vigorous action was
necessary to establish a more religious state", but he could not bring about
a settlement between rival god factions (Life of Constantine, op. cit., pp.
26-8). His advisers warned him that the presbyters' religions were "destitute
of foundation" and needed official stabilization (ibid.)."
People, people, people... Do you know what this means? The Catholics put it
in their Encyclopedia, there was something terribly wrong with the religious
aspect of life all the way up to the elders... He wanted to put an end to all
this... Meaning there was no Christianity... There was nothing but
corruption, up to the 4th century... There is a real dark age here, and no
wonder... Israel had fallen, Egypt had fallen, all these original
civilizations had fallen to the sword, not logic...
Please take a second to let that get in, very serious implications suggested here...
Okay actually Constantine would communicate with religious elders of various
factions within these pagan religions to try and attempt to unite under
one... Attempts failed... You see Europe at this time was very illiterate I'm
sure your not surprised, and mostly only elders and wealthy people had the
ability to read, so much of the decisions relied on wealthy class people
paralleling modern times if you ask me... To make my point clear... In his
final attempt to create one religion for Europe he demanded by issuing a
decree commanding all presbyters and their subordinates...
"be mounted on asses, mules and horses belonging to the public, and travel to
the city of Nicaea" in the Roman province of Bithynia in Asia Minor. They
were instructed to bring with them the testimonies they orated to the rabble,
"bound in leather" for protection during the long journey, and surrender them
to Constantine upon arrival in Nicaea (The Catholic Dictionary, Addis and
Arnold, 1917, "Council of Nicaea" entry). Their writings totalled "in all,
two thousand two hundred and thirty-one scrolls and legendary tales of gods
and saviours, together with a record of the doctrines orated by them" (Life
of Constantine, op. cit., vol. ii, p. 73; N&PNF, op. cit., vol. i, p. 518).”
Ladies and Gentlemen of Israel you can already see where the cruel joke comes
in... He did accept christianity but in the form you see it today, but as
project of iniquity you were forced into believing that what you see today,
had anything to do with the Dead Sea Scrolls... Let's take a look a couple
more points made in history...
These Catholics are pretty funny and arrogant but their not that smart...
They lay it all in front of your face, rely on ignorance as a assurence that
we won't make sense of it, sense they really don't have a choice... They
really won't burn the truth away, sense they need to keep themselves
educated... They won't make that mistake again... But let's get back to it...
Constantine happned to be in a secret society himself... After Egypt made it
clear that they had secret societies, Greek civilization of course modeled
this all throughout history, primarily to keep the inner circle educated...
But that wasn't always the case with Constantine.
"Council of Nicaea." It was at this meeting that Christianity was created, and
over time you will see what came to be modern christianity. About four years
prior to chairing the Council, Constantine had been initiated into the
religious order of Sol Invictus, one of the two thriving cults that regarded
the Sun as the one and only Supreme God (the other was Mithraism). Because of
his Sun worship, he instructed Eusebius to convene the first of three
sittings on the summer solstice, 21 June 325 (Catholic Encyclopedia, New
Edition, vol. i, p. 792), and it was "held in a hall in Osius's palace"
(Ecclesiastical History, Bishop Louis Dupin, Paris, 1686, vol. i, p. 598). In
an account of the proceedings of the conclave of presbyters gathered at
Nicaea, Sabinius, Bishop of Hereclea, who was in attendance, said, "Excepting
Constantine himself and Eusebius Pamphilius, they were a set of illiterate,
simple creatures who understood nothing" (Secrets of the Christian Fathers,
Bishop J. W. Sergerus, 1685, 1897 reprint)."
So take a minute to giggle that out and we'll see what they mean by this...
Apparently sun worship is very popular among paganism, and even spiritualism,
so I can see how easy it is to succumb to worshiping the sun when its right
in front of your face... Yet, they got all this from Egypt, it's not wonder,
that Greeks were trying to preserve the secrets of Horus, Ra, set, and etc
similar to the masons today. It's also no wonder that you see them all
portrayed threw figures like jesus, superman, tammuz, optimus prime, lucifer,
and etc... It's always been the way to resurrect the magical mysteries of
Egypt and Babylon, it's a challenge to even have your country meet up to such
standards of mystical excellence, within self spiritualism...
It's also no wonder that Constantine also insisted that he instructed
Eusebius to convene the first of three sittings on the summer solstice...
You may want to look this up yourself sense there is plenty of reading to do
on this but, here is how the Summer solstice dates back to Kemet... But
before I do, if you had not noticed, you just made the connection between
jesus and Stonehenge, do your research... But try to get this in your mind if you can...
Essenes:
"This was a Jewish religious group active in Palestine during the 1st century
CE. It was one of about 24 Jewish groups in the country -- the only one that
used a solar calendar. Other Jewish groups at the time included the
Sadducees, Pharisees, Zealots, followers of John, and followers of Yeshua
(Jesus). Archaeologists have found that the largest room of the ruins at
Qumran (location of the Dead Sea Scrolls) appears to be a sun temple. The
room had been considered a dining room by earlier investigators, in spite of
the presence of two altars at its eastern end. At the time of the summer
solstice, the rays of the setting sun shine at 286 degrees along the
building's longitudinal axis, and illuminate the eastern wall. The room is
oriented at exactly the same angle as the Egyptian shrines dedicated to the
sun. Two ancient authorities -- the historian Josephus and the philosopher
Filon of Alexandria -- had written that the Essenes were sun worshipers.
Until recently, their opinion had been rejected by modern historians"
My am I having fun with this, it's like slapping the jesus doctrine in the
face with a glove dipped in real holy water...
Guys, if you haven't noticed yet, you have just uncovered one of the biggest
conspiracies ever... This is bigger than just the illuminati... We are
talking a about a goal sense what would call at least the the 4th Century... Jews have been at it
for a very long time... Now why would we disagree with Josephus on one point,
yet accept most of what he says as a historian? This is a foundation of what
is christianity today... You have gotten a birds eye view of how christianity
was formed... You are beginning to see a pattern with these jews and sun
worship... You see their Sun Worship expressed today with the Star of David,
and other old egyptian symbols incorporated into their orthodox religion...
Lets actually go deep into that by seeing what connections between astrology
and the new testament...
Christian countries:
"After the conversion of Europe to Christianity, the feast day of St. John
the Baptist was set as JUN-24. It "is one of the oldest feasts, if not the
oldest feast, introduced into both the Greek and Latin liturgies to honour a
saint." 16 Curiously, the feast is held on the alleged date of his birth.
Other Christian saints' days are observed on the anniversary of their death.
The Catholic Encyclopedia explains that St. John was "filled with the Holy
Ghost even from his mother's womb...[thus his] birth...should be signalized
as a day of triumph." 16 His feast day is offset a few days after the summer
solstice, just as Christmas is fixed a few days after the winter solstice. 1
"Just as John was the forerunner to Jesus, midsummer forecasts the eventual
arrival of" the winter solstice circa DEC-21."
So as I gave you in my last short essay, the Winter Solstice is of course
compared to jesus and his death and resurrection, which is why christians
celebrate christmas... And this wasn't actually instituted until later, but
christmas did exist as another sun worshiping festival... But as we are
witnessing, jesus and the new testament is a front row seat to the worship of
astrology or jesus...
Using historical fact alone... I am one to respect, mystery but in the case
of the New Testament and Jesus, their is much less mystery than there is a
direct connection to the corruption and sneaky ways of the jewish agenda...
"Historically, secret societies have been the subject of suspicion and
speculation from non-members since the time of the ancient Greeks, when
meetings were held "sub rosa" (Latin, "under the rose"). This phrase arrises
from the fact that the rose was the emblem of the god Horus in ancient Egypt.
Later the Greeks and Romans regarded Horus as god of silence. This originates
from a Greek/Roman misinterpretation of an Egyptian hieroglyphic adopting
Horus along with Isis and Osiris as a god. The Greeks translated his Egyptian
name Har-pa-khered to Harpocrates. The rose's connotation for secrecy also
dates back to Greek mythology. Aphrodite gave a rose to her son Eros, the god
of love; he, in turn, gave it to Harpocrates, the god of silence, to ensure
that his mother's indiscretions (or those of the gods in general, in other
accounts) were kept under wraps. In the Middle Ages a rose suspended from the
ceiling of a council chamber pledged all present (those under the rose) to
secrecy.[1] Today the phrases "Sub Rosa" and "under the rose" are commonly
used to indicate secrecy." (Under the Nose if you ask me....)
“They kept their knowledge in the strictest secrecy, so that the name “Egypt”
itself became associated… with the greatest mystery.
"…The majority of those who had ever knocked on the doors of the temples of
the mysteries, had never gotten admitted there; out of those who were
admitted many overstrained their nerves or simply grew reluctant to undergo
initiation because of increasing level of difficulty of the tests which they
had to pass before this. Thanks to this process of winnowing out — a sort of
natural selection — the mysteries turned into one of the most closed
institutes of antiquity, and the secrets that were hidden behind the tightly
closed doors of the temples, were confided only to those who had made a
solemn vow never to bring them out of there. Everyone who had managed to get
through those doors till the rest of their lives belonged to the secret
society of people who continued living among the uninitiated masses, but
pursued higher goals”.
So if your suspecions that the jews and greeks are one in a very slick game
of blackmail against the world, that forged its way into history your on the
money... That's what money and power will do after time, something that these ethnic
greeks have always had access to... This will be my last point made... Let's
look at these jews movements carefully now, their at it...
Who was Flavius Josephus?
Officially, who became known, in his capacity as a Roman citizen, as Titus
Flavius Josephus,[2] was a 1st-century Jewish historian and apologist of
priestly and royal ancestry who survived and recorded the Destruction of
Jerusalem in 70. His works give an important insight into first-century
Judaism.
So just from looking at this you can probably tell that it is up to him to
tell the whole story of this new religion called judaism, and at the same
create another religion on the side... This man was undoubtly a genius in his
time... This man helped forge the authencity of judasim by created a figure
named jesus... Now that I come toward the end you see how they are connected
for a absolute conclusion, Flavius Josephus needed to validate the jews in
the area by created a character the whole world can't deny as a jew... Jesus
became his main go to guy, he would not only forge judaism, but christianity
and Islam as well...
"In 2003 Joseph Atwill discovered that the Roman emperor Titus Flavius,
working with Flavius Josephus and other authors in his patrimony wrote the
New Testament. Atwill deduced this by comparing The 'Judean War' to the New
Testament. The 'Judean War', written by Flavius Josephus, was originally part
of the Christian Bible, and was removed around 1100 CE. 'The Roman Origin of
Christianity', released as 'Caesar's Messiah' by Joseph Atwill documents the
creation of the New Testament as a Roman satire devised to win over Judean
dissidents by deceiving them into believing that the emperor Titus Flavius
Vespasiani was Jesus! I know, it sounds strange, but that seems to be the way
it was. Titus took great pleasure in calling himself "the greatest forger in
history."
Oh so now your probably thinking I will forget and leave out the infamous
forgers, but I haven't... Watch... The Piso's were actually the family who
took on the burdon of writing the new Testament... So how do Flavius Josephus
and the Piso family connect?
"The writer Flavius Josephus who wrote a history of the people of Judea was
actually a Flavian/Piso. In the Works of Flavius Josephus, particularly the
Autobiography and 'Judean War', there are many Jesuses, one of whom is
described as a thief who lived with a group of fishermen. Christians have
often referred to Flavius Josephus as an author who gives independent
testimony to the Jesus story. It is probable that Josephus (jos-e-pos) was
actually a Piso/Flavian writing about the Jesus he invented. In the
Autobiography there are many people, events and places described by Josephus,
including kings and battles, most of which cannot be proven to have actually
existed. The Autobiography is undoubtedly a work of fiction."
"The Piso family members liked the name Joseph. This is why there are so many
Josephs in the NT. Why did they like that name in particular? Because in
Hebrew the name is expressed Jos-e-pos. The e-pos part of it sounds like
IPPOS, or Greek for the family mascot - the horse."
What is the Julius Ceasar connection?
"Julius Caesar was an in-law of the Piso family. His wife, Calpurnia, was a
Piso. He had married her to cement an alliance with Pontus. When Cleopatra,
also a Piso relative, seduced Caesar, it is possible that she was conspiring
with her relative Pharnaces II, king of Pontus, to distract Caesar while
Pharnaces prepared to wage war against Rome. But Caesar got wind of the
activities of Pharnaces and rushed to Pontus with two legions, one of which
was almost entirely composed of Judean troops. Caesar turned the tables on
Pharnaces. That defeat probably led to Caesar's assassination, and the
eternal hatred of Caesar by the people of Pontus."
So in retrospect the New Testament does without of doubt have deep
connotations of Julius Caesar in some cases... Why love him so much? Guess
how much power Julius Caesar has
"Imagine having the power to set the date of origin of the calendar! This was
the kind of power held by the Roman aristocracy. Julius Caesar had changed
the calendar himself. With the advice of Cleopatra's astrologer, Caesar had
added four extra months to the year 46 BCE. This is the reason that the
Piso/Flavians changed the calendar too. It was a kind of "one-upsmanship" on
a grand scale."
There you have it... The New Testament is dead... It always was dead, and it
was made up by a bunch of rich guys, yet they did it so well, it was template
for the rest of history... Now our ignorance is used to the advantage of
necromancers, astrologers, and magicians who exploit the dark ages in history
to fill in the blanks with documents made by pre-Shakespeares... I don't know
about you folks but what I just presented is only a fraction of the what the
churches admit about their own doctrines... The facts were hidden for years,
yet the churches couldn't dream that we would have technology to search
endless virtual vaults of information... Where does this lead? I believe that
the New Testament was a stolen text from the Dead Sea scrolls, this will
probably be my next essay... It will have to include a conspiracy deep with
in the Julius Caesar, Alexandria libraries... Thank you Yahweh for speaking
through me, HalleluYahweh... Thank you for being patient Naya, my restless
can be a bit frustrating sometimes... And to rest of my Israelite brothers
and sisters, thank you for taking the time to read my context and consider my
words, I appreciate it this from the depth of my heart, the time is coming to
be restablished... I know were all excited to get back to Israel once and for
all... Shalom my nation...
Cites:
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/works/files/works.html
http://www.fargonasphere.com/piso/
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/NewTestament.html
Etc...
Please don't mind the almost relaxed format, I didn't want to bore anyone with this sizable document... If their are any misspells I apologize ahead of time, another long document written by hand.. Lets not waist time and get to it Israelites! Your gospels of Matthew, mark, luke, and john die today...Please bless my work Yahweh...
(Catholic Encyclopedias, Preface) admits that the Gospels "do not go back to the first century of the Christian era" (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, p. 137, pp. 655-6).
Well how long do they go back?
the Church further admits that
"the earliest of the existant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD" (Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).
Well we have a problem this is about 350 years off... So why does this matter? Because The New Testament is actually written during a time when presbyters were corrupt, and worshiping pagan gods...
"The majority of modern-day Christian writers suppress the truth about the
development of their religion and conceal Constantine's efforts to curb the
disreputable character of the presbyters who are now called "Church Fathers"
(Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. xiv, pp. 370-1). They were
"maddened", he said (Life of Constantine, attributed to Eusebius Pamphilius
of Caesarea, c. 335, vol. iii, p. 171; The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers,
cited as N&PNF, attributed to St Ambrose, Rev. Prof. Roberts, DD, and
Principal James Donaldson, LLD, editors, 1891, vol. iv, p. 467)."
Okay in case you still aren't starting to feel the affects...
there is a reason there were no New Testaments until the fourth century, they weren't written until this time...Some major things go on in 4th Century that will lead us to understand some of the points I make later... Lets look at some of the Major events:
"301: Armenia first to adopt Christianity as state religion"
"306–337: Constantine I, ends persecution of Christians in the Roman Empire,
calls First Council of Nicaea, see also Constantinian shift, Constantinople
becomes new seat of government (New Rome)"
Their is a conflict in history books here. Now, were at the point of history
vs fact. Contrary to popular belief, which so many historians are love to
support, that Constantine
"embraced the Christian religion" and subsequently granted "official
toleration", is "contrary to historical fact" and should be erased from our
literature forever (Catholic Encyclopedia, Pecci ed., vol. iii, p. 299,
passim). Simply put, there was no Christian religion at Constantine's time,
and the Church acknowledges that the tale of his "conversion" and "baptism"
are "entirely legendary" (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. xiv, pp. 370-1).
Constantine "never acquired a solid theological knowledge" and "depended
heavily on his advisers in religious questions" (Catholic Encyclopedia, New
Edition, vol. xii, p. 576, passim)."
Whoa wait, take this in...
"According to Eusebeius (260-339), Constantine noted that among the
Presbyterian factions "strife had grown so serious, vigorous action was
necessary to establish a more religious state", but he could not bring about
a settlement between rival god factions (Life of Constantine, op. cit., pp.
26-8). His advisers warned him that the presbyters' religions were "destitute
of foundation" and needed official stabilization (ibid.)."
People, people, people... Do you know what this means? The Catholics put it
in their Encyclopedia, there was something terribly wrong with the religious
aspect of life all the way up to the elders... He wanted to put an end to all
this... Meaning there was no Christianity... There was nothing but
corruption, up to the 4th century... There is a real dark age here, and no
wonder... Israel had fallen, Egypt had fallen, all these original
civilizations had fallen to the sword, not logic...
Please take a second to let that get in, very serious implications suggested here...
Okay actually Constantine would communicate with religious elders of various
factions within these pagan religions to try and attempt to unite under
one... Attempts failed... You see Europe at this time was very illiterate I'm
sure your not surprised, and mostly only elders and wealthy people had the
ability to read, so much of the decisions relied on wealthy class people
paralleling modern times if you ask me... To make my point clear... In his
final attempt to create one religion for Europe he demanded by issuing a
decree commanding all presbyters and their subordinates...
"be mounted on asses, mules and horses belonging to the public, and travel to
the city of Nicaea" in the Roman province of Bithynia in Asia Minor. They
were instructed to bring with them the testimonies they orated to the rabble,
"bound in leather" for protection during the long journey, and surrender them
to Constantine upon arrival in Nicaea (The Catholic Dictionary, Addis and
Arnold, 1917, "Council of Nicaea" entry). Their writings totalled "in all,
two thousand two hundred and thirty-one scrolls and legendary tales of gods
and saviours, together with a record of the doctrines orated by them" (Life
of Constantine, op. cit., vol. ii, p. 73; N&PNF, op. cit., vol. i, p. 518).”
Ladies and Gentlemen of Israel you can already see where the cruel joke comes
in... He did accept christianity but in the form you see it today, but as
project of iniquity you were forced into believing that what you see today,
had anything to do with the Dead Sea Scrolls... Let's take a look a couple
more points made in history...
These Catholics are pretty funny and arrogant but their not that smart...
They lay it all in front of your face, rely on ignorance as a assurence that
we won't make sense of it, sense they really don't have a choice... They
really won't burn the truth away, sense they need to keep themselves
educated... They won't make that mistake again... But let's get back to it...
Constantine happned to be in a secret society himself... After Egypt made it
clear that they had secret societies, Greek civilization of course modeled
this all throughout history, primarily to keep the inner circle educated...
But that wasn't always the case with Constantine.
"Council of Nicaea." It was at this meeting that Christianity was created, and
over time you will see what came to be modern christianity. About four years
prior to chairing the Council, Constantine had been initiated into the
religious order of Sol Invictus, one of the two thriving cults that regarded
the Sun as the one and only Supreme God (the other was Mithraism). Because of
his Sun worship, he instructed Eusebius to convene the first of three
sittings on the summer solstice, 21 June 325 (Catholic Encyclopedia, New
Edition, vol. i, p. 792), and it was "held in a hall in Osius's palace"
(Ecclesiastical History, Bishop Louis Dupin, Paris, 1686, vol. i, p. 598). In
an account of the proceedings of the conclave of presbyters gathered at
Nicaea, Sabinius, Bishop of Hereclea, who was in attendance, said, "Excepting
Constantine himself and Eusebius Pamphilius, they were a set of illiterate,
simple creatures who understood nothing" (Secrets of the Christian Fathers,
Bishop J. W. Sergerus, 1685, 1897 reprint)."
So take a minute to giggle that out and we'll see what they mean by this...
Apparently sun worship is very popular among paganism, and even spiritualism,
so I can see how easy it is to succumb to worshiping the sun when its right
in front of your face... Yet, they got all this from Egypt, it's not wonder,
that Greeks were trying to preserve the secrets of Horus, Ra, set, and etc
similar to the masons today. It's also no wonder that you see them all
portrayed threw figures like jesus, superman, tammuz, optimus prime, lucifer,
and etc... It's always been the way to resurrect the magical mysteries of
Egypt and Babylon, it's a challenge to even have your country meet up to such
standards of mystical excellence, within self spiritualism...
It's also no wonder that Constantine also insisted that he instructed
Eusebius to convene the first of three sittings on the summer solstice...
You may want to look this up yourself sense there is plenty of reading to do
on this but, here is how the Summer solstice dates back to Kemet... But
before I do, if you had not noticed, you just made the connection between
jesus and Stonehenge, do your research... But try to get this in your mind if you can...
Essenes:
"This was a Jewish religious group active in Palestine during the 1st century
CE. It was one of about 24 Jewish groups in the country -- the only one that
used a solar calendar. Other Jewish groups at the time included the
Sadducees, Pharisees, Zealots, followers of John, and followers of Yeshua
(Jesus). Archaeologists have found that the largest room of the ruins at
Qumran (location of the Dead Sea Scrolls) appears to be a sun temple. The
room had been considered a dining room by earlier investigators, in spite of
the presence of two altars at its eastern end. At the time of the summer
solstice, the rays of the setting sun shine at 286 degrees along the
building's longitudinal axis, and illuminate the eastern wall. The room is
oriented at exactly the same angle as the Egyptian shrines dedicated to the
sun. Two ancient authorities -- the historian Josephus and the philosopher
Filon of Alexandria -- had written that the Essenes were sun worshipers.
Until recently, their opinion had been rejected by modern historians"
My am I having fun with this, it's like slapping the jesus doctrine in the
face with a glove dipped in real holy water...
Guys, if you haven't noticed yet, you have just uncovered one of the biggest
conspiracies ever... This is bigger than just the illuminati... We are
talking a about a goal sense what would call at least the the 4th Century... Jews have been at it
for a very long time... Now why would we disagree with Josephus on one point,
yet accept most of what he says as a historian? This is a foundation of what
is christianity today... You have gotten a birds eye view of how christianity
was formed... You are beginning to see a pattern with these jews and sun
worship... You see their Sun Worship expressed today with the Star of David,
and other old egyptian symbols incorporated into their orthodox religion...
Lets actually go deep into that by seeing what connections between astrology
and the new testament...
Christian countries:
"After the conversion of Europe to Christianity, the feast day of St. John
the Baptist was set as JUN-24. It "is one of the oldest feasts, if not the
oldest feast, introduced into both the Greek and Latin liturgies to honour a
saint." 16 Curiously, the feast is held on the alleged date of his birth.
Other Christian saints' days are observed on the anniversary of their death.
The Catholic Encyclopedia explains that St. John was "filled with the Holy
Ghost even from his mother's womb...[thus his] birth...should be signalized
as a day of triumph." 16 His feast day is offset a few days after the summer
solstice, just as Christmas is fixed a few days after the winter solstice. 1
"Just as John was the forerunner to Jesus, midsummer forecasts the eventual
arrival of" the winter solstice circa DEC-21."
So as I gave you in my last short essay, the Winter Solstice is of course
compared to jesus and his death and resurrection, which is why christians
celebrate christmas... And this wasn't actually instituted until later, but
christmas did exist as another sun worshiping festival... But as we are
witnessing, jesus and the new testament is a front row seat to the worship of
astrology or jesus...
Using historical fact alone... I am one to respect, mystery but in the case
of the New Testament and Jesus, their is much less mystery than there is a
direct connection to the corruption and sneaky ways of the jewish agenda...
"Historically, secret societies have been the subject of suspicion and
speculation from non-members since the time of the ancient Greeks, when
meetings were held "sub rosa" (Latin, "under the rose"). This phrase arrises
from the fact that the rose was the emblem of the god Horus in ancient Egypt.
Later the Greeks and Romans regarded Horus as god of silence. This originates
from a Greek/Roman misinterpretation of an Egyptian hieroglyphic adopting
Horus along with Isis and Osiris as a god. The Greeks translated his Egyptian
name Har-pa-khered to Harpocrates. The rose's connotation for secrecy also
dates back to Greek mythology. Aphrodite gave a rose to her son Eros, the god
of love; he, in turn, gave it to Harpocrates, the god of silence, to ensure
that his mother's indiscretions (or those of the gods in general, in other
accounts) were kept under wraps. In the Middle Ages a rose suspended from the
ceiling of a council chamber pledged all present (those under the rose) to
secrecy.[1] Today the phrases "Sub Rosa" and "under the rose" are commonly
used to indicate secrecy." (Under the Nose if you ask me....)
“They kept their knowledge in the strictest secrecy, so that the name “Egypt”
itself became associated… with the greatest mystery.
"…The majority of those who had ever knocked on the doors of the temples of
the mysteries, had never gotten admitted there; out of those who were
admitted many overstrained their nerves or simply grew reluctant to undergo
initiation because of increasing level of difficulty of the tests which they
had to pass before this. Thanks to this process of winnowing out — a sort of
natural selection — the mysteries turned into one of the most closed
institutes of antiquity, and the secrets that were hidden behind the tightly
closed doors of the temples, were confided only to those who had made a
solemn vow never to bring them out of there. Everyone who had managed to get
through those doors till the rest of their lives belonged to the secret
society of people who continued living among the uninitiated masses, but
pursued higher goals”.
So if your suspecions that the jews and greeks are one in a very slick game
of blackmail against the world, that forged its way into history your on the
money... That's what money and power will do after time, something that these ethnic
greeks have always had access to... This will be my last point made... Let's
look at these jews movements carefully now, their at it...
Who was Flavius Josephus?
Officially, who became known, in his capacity as a Roman citizen, as Titus
Flavius Josephus,[2] was a 1st-century Jewish historian and apologist of
priestly and royal ancestry who survived and recorded the Destruction of
Jerusalem in 70. His works give an important insight into first-century
Judaism.
So just from looking at this you can probably tell that it is up to him to
tell the whole story of this new religion called judaism, and at the same
create another religion on the side... This man was undoubtly a genius in his
time... This man helped forge the authencity of judasim by created a figure
named jesus... Now that I come toward the end you see how they are connected
for a absolute conclusion, Flavius Josephus needed to validate the jews in
the area by created a character the whole world can't deny as a jew... Jesus
became his main go to guy, he would not only forge judaism, but christianity
and Islam as well...
"In 2003 Joseph Atwill discovered that the Roman emperor Titus Flavius,
working with Flavius Josephus and other authors in his patrimony wrote the
New Testament. Atwill deduced this by comparing The 'Judean War' to the New
Testament. The 'Judean War', written by Flavius Josephus, was originally part
of the Christian Bible, and was removed around 1100 CE. 'The Roman Origin of
Christianity', released as 'Caesar's Messiah' by Joseph Atwill documents the
creation of the New Testament as a Roman satire devised to win over Judean
dissidents by deceiving them into believing that the emperor Titus Flavius
Vespasiani was Jesus! I know, it sounds strange, but that seems to be the way
it was. Titus took great pleasure in calling himself "the greatest forger in
history."
Oh so now your probably thinking I will forget and leave out the infamous
forgers, but I haven't... Watch... The Piso's were actually the family who
took on the burdon of writing the new Testament... So how do Flavius Josephus
and the Piso family connect?
"The writer Flavius Josephus who wrote a history of the people of Judea was
actually a Flavian/Piso. In the Works of Flavius Josephus, particularly the
Autobiography and 'Judean War', there are many Jesuses, one of whom is
described as a thief who lived with a group of fishermen. Christians have
often referred to Flavius Josephus as an author who gives independent
testimony to the Jesus story. It is probable that Josephus (jos-e-pos) was
actually a Piso/Flavian writing about the Jesus he invented. In the
Autobiography there are many people, events and places described by Josephus,
including kings and battles, most of which cannot be proven to have actually
existed. The Autobiography is undoubtedly a work of fiction."
"The Piso family members liked the name Joseph. This is why there are so many
Josephs in the NT. Why did they like that name in particular? Because in
Hebrew the name is expressed Jos-e-pos. The e-pos part of it sounds like
IPPOS, or Greek for the family mascot - the horse."
What is the Julius Ceasar connection?
"Julius Caesar was an in-law of the Piso family. His wife, Calpurnia, was a
Piso. He had married her to cement an alliance with Pontus. When Cleopatra,
also a Piso relative, seduced Caesar, it is possible that she was conspiring
with her relative Pharnaces II, king of Pontus, to distract Caesar while
Pharnaces prepared to wage war against Rome. But Caesar got wind of the
activities of Pharnaces and rushed to Pontus with two legions, one of which
was almost entirely composed of Judean troops. Caesar turned the tables on
Pharnaces. That defeat probably led to Caesar's assassination, and the
eternal hatred of Caesar by the people of Pontus."
So in retrospect the New Testament does without of doubt have deep
connotations of Julius Caesar in some cases... Why love him so much? Guess
how much power Julius Caesar has
"Imagine having the power to set the date of origin of the calendar! This was
the kind of power held by the Roman aristocracy. Julius Caesar had changed
the calendar himself. With the advice of Cleopatra's astrologer, Caesar had
added four extra months to the year 46 BCE. This is the reason that the
Piso/Flavians changed the calendar too. It was a kind of "one-upsmanship" on
a grand scale."
There you have it... The New Testament is dead... It always was dead, and it
was made up by a bunch of rich guys, yet they did it so well, it was template
for the rest of history... Now our ignorance is used to the advantage of
necromancers, astrologers, and magicians who exploit the dark ages in history
to fill in the blanks with documents made by pre-Shakespeares... I don't know
about you folks but what I just presented is only a fraction of the what the
churches admit about their own doctrines... The facts were hidden for years,
yet the churches couldn't dream that we would have technology to search
endless virtual vaults of information... Where does this lead? I believe that
the New Testament was a stolen text from the Dead Sea scrolls, this will
probably be my next essay... It will have to include a conspiracy deep with
in the Julius Caesar, Alexandria libraries... Thank you Yahweh for speaking
through me, HalleluYahweh... Thank you for being patient Naya, my restless
can be a bit frustrating sometimes... And to rest of my Israelite brothers
and sisters, thank you for taking the time to read my context and consider my
words, I appreciate it this from the depth of my heart, the time is coming to
be restablished... I know were all excited to get back to Israel once and for
all... Shalom my nation...
Cites:
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/j
http://www.fargonasphere.c
http://www.nexusmagazine.c
Etc...
Ultimate Death of the New Testament (3)
The Ultimate Death of The New Testament
I will use the New Testament against Jesus in multiple ways, this time it's personal... Let's use Jesus own text against him... I will start off light, and make things a bit more harsh...
The first story I will start with is the ignorance of the jews, who declare jesus to be the Son of God, after nothing more than a fling of his limb...
John 1:35-36
The next day John was standing with two of his disciples. When he saw Jesus passing by, he said, 'Look, the Lamb of God!'
John 1:37
When the two disciples heard him say this, they followed Jesus.
John 1:38-39
They said, 'Rabbi, where are you staying?' And he said to them, 'Come and see.'
John 1:39
So they came and saw where he was staying, and they stayed with him that day, it being four o'clock in the afternoon.
John 1:40-41
Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, was one of the two who had followed Jesus. The first thing Andrew did was to find his brother Simon and tell him, 'We have found the messiah.'
John 1:42
Andrew brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, 'You are Simon son of John. You will be called Cephas' (which translates as Peter).
John 1:43-44
The next day Jesus decided to leave for Galilee. He found Philip, he said to him, 'Follow me.' Philip was from Bethsaida, the town of Andrew and Peter.
John 1:45
Philip found Nathanael and told him, 'We have found the one Moses wrote about in the Law, and the prophets: Jesus the son of Joseph who is from Nazareth.'
John 1:46
'Nazareth?' asked Nathanael, 'Can anything good come from there?' 'Come and see!' said Philip.
John 1:47
Jesus saw Nathanael coming toward him and exclaimed, 'Look, a true Israelite in whom there is no deceit!'
John 1:48
Nathanael asked him, 'How do you know me?' Jesus replied, 'Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you.'
John 1:49
Nathanael answered him, 'Rabbi, you are the Son of God. You are the King of Israel!'
John 1:50
Jesus said to him, 'Because I told you that I saw you under the fig tree, do you believe? You will see greater things than these.'
The ignorance already shown, this man has already broken the Law of the Torah...
Deuteronomy 13:1
'If a prophet arises among you offering some sign or wonder...'
Deuteronomy 13:2
'...and if he then tells you to follow other gods and worship them...'
Deuteronomy 13:3-4
'Do not listen to that prophet's words. Yahweh your God is testing you to find out if you love him with all your heart and soul.'
Deuteronomy 13:6
'That prophet must be put to death. You must banish this evil from among you.'
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In reality Jesus never turns water into wine, apparently the guests are just too drunk to notice...
John 2:1-2
Now on the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’s mother was there, and Jesus and his disciples were also invited to the wedding.
John 2:3
When the wine ran out, Jesus’s mother said to him, 'They have no more wine.'
John 2:4
Jesus replied, 'Woman, what have I to do with you? My time has not yet come.'
John 2:5
His mother said to the servants, 'Whatever he tells you, do it.'
John 2:6-7
Now there were six stone water jars there, each holding twenty or thirty gallons. Jesus told the servants, 'Fill the water jars with water.'
John 2:7-8
They filled them up to the very top. Then Jesus said to them, 'Now draw some out and carry it to the master steward.'
John 2:9-10
When the master steward tasted the water that had been turned to wine, he called the bridegroom and said to him, 'Everyone serves the good wine first, and then the inferior wine when the guests are drunk. You have kept the good wine until now!'
John 2:11
Jesus did this as the first of his miraculous signs. In this way he displayed his glory, and his disciples believed in him.
How does this magician do this?
I didn't hold it against him that he was jesus, but I wanted to get a christians point of view on this, and he supports the theory that jesus did not make real alchohol...
Did jesus really turn water into wine? Or just water? Christians seem not to want to portray jesus as a drinker, so they support that he would not do such a thing to make the guests drunker than they were... But this is story I used for because it is so contraversal...
"The immediate context of John 2:1-11 is quite clear. The guests at the marriage feast of Cana were able to discern between the quality of the drink that the Lord had made and that which had already been served. If intoxicating wine had been served, and people "well drunk" or "drunk freely" (American Standard Version,1901) of it (verse 10), then they would not have had such keen discernment. Though the amount is not specified as to what they had previously drunk, if they consumed the six waterpots that Jesus had the servants fill with water and which contained "two or three firkins apiece" (verse 6), then they would have consumed somewhere between 106 to 162 gallons of booze! This is far more than enough to make the most casual drinker drunk. Those who twist this account to condone social drinking say the term "well drunk" refers to the idea that the crowd was so drunk that they could not distinguish. However, the point of "the governor of the feast" to the bridegroom is that the guests were able to discern between the "worse" and the "good wine." If it is the case that these wedding guests were so drunk that they could not distinguish, then the Lord made the six pots of alcoholic beverage for those who were already strongly under the influence, and caused them to be even more drunk! Thus, the "good wine" of the wedding feast of Canaan must have been the fresh juice of the grape."
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Jesus is chased out of Nazareth because
Mark 6:1
Jesus left there and came to his hometown, and his disciples followed him.
Mark 6:2, John 14:6
When the Sabbath came, he began to teach in the synagogue. 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'
Mark 6:2
Many who heard him were astonished and said, 'Where did he get these ideas?'
Mark 6:3
'Isn’t this the carpenter? The son of Mary and brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon? And aren’t his sisters here with us?'
Luke 4:28-29
The people in the synagogue were furious. They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the edge of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him down the cliff.
Mark 6:5, Luke 4:30
He could do no miracle there, but he slipped through the crowd and went on his way.
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Jesus does not even let a man bury his own father before going with him, he lets the man rot in the sun... This is actually against the torah...
Luke 5:27
When Jesus went out after this, he noticed a tax collector named Levi sitting at the tax office, and said to him, 'Follow me.'
Luke 5:28
Leaving everything, Levi got up and followed him.
Matthew 9:9
As Jesus was walking on from there he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax office, and he said to him, 'Follow me.'
Matthew 9:9
And he got up and followed him.
Matthew 8:21
Another one of his disciples said to him, 'Lord, let me go and bury my father first.'
Matthew 8:22
But Jesus said, 'Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their dead.'
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Jesus never walks on water, in fact it is too dark for the disciples to realize that they had made it to shore where jesus was standing on the beach...
John 6:16-17
When evening came, his disciples went down to the lake, got into a boat and set off across the lake for Capernum.
John 6:17-18
By now it was dark, and Jesus had not yet joined them. A strong wind blew and the waters grew rough.
John 6:19
When they had rowed three or four miles, they saw Jesus approaching the boat, walking on the sea.
John 6:19-20
They were terrified, but Jesus said to them, 'Don't be afraid.'
John 6:21
Then they wanted to take him into the boat, but immediately the boat reached the shore where they were heading.
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I'd say one of the most contraversal passages about jesus... Remember I said one... His own mother thinks that he has gone mad, this suggests that in reality no holy ghost ever told Mary that jesus would be messiah or king of jew, or even a prophet, her reaction was to someone who had a baby out of wedlock with Joesph...
Mark 3:20
Jesus went home again, and once more such a crowd collected that they could not even have a meal.
Matthew 12:46
He was still speaking to the crowds when his mother and brothers were standing outside and were anxious to speak with him.
Luke 8:19
But they could not get to him because of the crowd.
Luke 8:20
Jesus was told, 'Your mother and brothers are standing outside and want to see you.'
Matthew 12:48
But to the man who told him this, Jesus replied, 'Who is my mother and who are my brothers?' And pointing toward his disciples, he said, 'Here are my mother and brothers: anyone who does the will of my Father in heaven.'
Mark 3:21
When his family heard of this, they went to take custody of him. They said, 'He is out of his mind!'
It is at this time that the truth about jesus is revealed...
And the teachers of the law who came down from Jerusalem said, "He is possessed by Beelzebub[c]! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons."
3So Jesus called them and spoke to them in parables: "How can Satan drive out Satan?
Well if Satan is the prince of demons, I would assume they do what ever he says...
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Jesus looses many of his desciples when they suspect that he practices cannablism...
John 6:59,48
This is what Jesus taught at the synagogue in Capernaum: 'I am the bread of life.'
John 6:49,51
'Your fathers ate manna in the desert and they are dead. I am the living bread. Anyone who eats this bread will live forever. And the bread that I shall give is my flesh.'
John 6:52
Then the Jews started arguing amongst themselves, 'How can this man give us his flesh to eat?'
John 6:53
Jesus replied to them, 'In truth I tell you, if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man or drink his blood, you have no life in you.'
John 6:60
After hearing this, many of his followers said, 'This is intolerable language. How could anyone accept it?'
John 6:66
After this, many of his disciples went away and accompanied him no more.
Hmm John 666... Interesting...
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Jesus practices voodoo? He doesn't ressurect, but he only reanimates, that is actually the technical term for a zombie...
John 11:1-3
Mary and Martha, whose brother Lazarus now lay sick, sent word to Jesus, 'Lord, the one you love is sick.'
John 11:4
When Jesus heard this, he said, 'This sickness will not end in death.'
John 11:5
Jesus loved Martha and her sister and Lazarus. Yet when he heard that Lazarus was sick, he stayed where he was two more days.
John 11:7, 14
Then he said to his disciples, 'Let's go back to Judea. Lazarus is dead.'
John 11:17, 20-21
When Jesus arrived, Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days. Martha came out to meet him and said, 'Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died!'
John 11:28, 32
Martha went and called her sister, and when Mary came to where Jesus was, she fell at his feet and said, 'Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died!'
John 11:33, 35
When Jesus saw Mary weeping and the weeping of the Jews who had come with her, he was deeply troubled and distressed. Jesus wept.
John 11:36-37
Some of the Jews said, 'Couldn't he have done something to keep Lazarus from dying?'
John 11:38-39
Jesus came to the tomb. It was a cave with a stone laid across the entrance. 'Take away the stone,' he said.
John 11:39
Martha, the sister of the dead man, said 'Lord, by this time there is a stench, for he has been there four days.'
John 11:40-43
They took away the stone and Jesus called in a loud voice, 'Lazarus, come out!'
John 11:44
The dead man came out bound hand and foot with linen strips and with his face wrapped in a cloth.
John 11:44
Jesus said to them, 'Unwrap him and let him go.'
Yeah that had to be a unpleasent experience yet, it doesn't stop there...
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Jesus has dinner with a dead man, yet that wasn't the most amusing factor, maybe it was because they can argue without noticing his stenching presense..
John 12:1, Matthew 26:6, John 12:2
Six days before the Passover, Jesus was in Bethany at the house of Simon the leper. And Lazarus was among those present at the table.
Mark 14:3, Matthew 26:7
A woman came with an alabaster jar of expensive aromatic oil made from pure nard, and she poured it on his head as he was at the table.
Mark 14:4-5
But some expressed indignance, saying to one another, 'Why this waste? It could have been sold for more than three hundred silver coins and the money given to the poor!'
Mark 14:6
But Jesus said, 'You will always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me!'
John 12:3
Then Mary took a pound of expensive aromatic oil from pure nard and anointed the feet of Jesus.
John 12:4-5
And one of the disciples, Judas Iscariot, said, 'Why wasn’t this oil sold for three hundred silver coins and the money given to the poor?'
John 12:7-8
And Jesus said, 'You will always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me!'
He has a rich man give up all his money to serve him, yet he does this... He better be important.. It doesn't stop here... And can we get the dead man out the house?
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The famous story of jesus cursing a tree for no reason, thought I should add it...
Mark 11:12-13
The next day, as they went out from Bethany, Jesus was hungry. He noticed a fig tree with leaves in the distance.
Mark 11:13-14
He went to see if he could find any fruit on it, but when he came to it he found nothing but leaves, for it was not the season for figs.
Mark 11:14
Jesus said to the tree, 'May no one ever eat fruit from you again.' And the disciples heard this.
Matthew 21:19
And the fig tree withered at once.
Mark 11:21
Peter said to him, 'Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered.'
It's the power you have, it's how you use it... Yet we won't get into this now...
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So here is one of my favorites, Jesus explains when the end of the world will occure...
Mark 13:1
As he was leaving the temple, one of his disciples said to him, 'Teacher, look! What stones! What buildings!'
Mark 13:2
'Do you see all these great buildings?' replied Jesus. 'Not one stone here will be left on another. They will all be thrown down!'
Matthew 24:3
As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately and said, 'Tell us when these things will happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of this age?'
Matthew 24:7
Jesus answered them, 'Nation will rise against nation...'
Matthew 24:7
'...and kingdom against kingdom.'
Luke 21:11
'There will be great earthquakes...'
Luke 21:11
'...famines...'
Luke 21:11
'...and plagues in various places.'
Matthew 24:9
'Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.'
Mark 13:12
'Brother will hand over brother to death, and a father his child.'
Mark 13:12
'Children will rise against parents and have them put to death.'
Luke 21:23-24
'Woe to those who are pregnant or nursing babies in those days! They will fall by the edge of the sword.'
Matthew 24:21
'There will be great suffering unlike anything that has happened from the beginning of the world until now, or ever will happen.'
Matthew 24:29-30, 16:27
'Immeditaely after the suffering of those days, they will see the Son of Man arriving on the clouds of the sky with his angels, with power and great glory.'
Matthew 24:31
'And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet blast.'
Mark 13:27
'And they will gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.'
Matthew 13:41
'And the Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather from his kingdom all things that offend and those who practice lawlessness.
Matthew 13:42
'And they will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
Matthew 24:3, Mark 13:4
And the disciples asked him , 'Tell us, when is this going to happen?'
Matthew 24:34
'I tell you the truth: this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.'
Matthew 16:28
'I tell you the truth: some standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.'
Umm wow?! Jesus says the end of the world would occure 2000 years ago? The men standing next to him would experience armageddon, the end of days, and the return of the Messiah? Well, I think he missed the train by a couple thousand years, those men are long dead...
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I have question for the last supper, was jesus really naked?
Matthew 26:18
Jesus said, 'Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, 'The Teacher says, "My time is near. I will observe the Passover with my disciples at your house."'
Matthew 26:19
So the disciples did as Jesus had instructed them, and they prepared the Passover.
Matthew 26:20
When it was evening, he took his place at the table with the twelve.
Matthew 26:26
As they were eating, Jesus took bread and gave it to the disciples. 'Take it and eat,' he said.
Matthew 26:26
'This is my body.'
Matthew 26:27
Then he took a cup, and handed it to them saying, 'Drink from this, all of you.'
Matthew 26:27
'For this is my blood.'
John 13:4
Jesus got up from the meal, removed his outer clothes, took a towel and wrapped it around his waist.
John 13:5
He poured water into the basin and began to wash the disciples’ feet and to dry them with the towel he had wrapped around him.
John 13:6
But Peter said, 'You shall never wash my feet, ever!'
John 13:10
Jesus answered, 'He who has bathed needs only to wash his feet.'
John 13:12,15,13
When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. 'I have set example. You should do as I have done for you. You should wash one another's feet.'
What makes me think he was naked?
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When jesus is arrested...
Matthew 26:49
He went up to Jesus at once and said, 'Greetings, Rabbi,' and kissed him.
Luke 22:49
His followers, seeing what was about to happen, said, 'Lord, shall we use our swords?'
John 18:10
Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, pulled it out and struck the high priest’s slave, cutting off his right ear. The slave’s name was Malchus.
John 18:11
But Jesus said to Peter, 'Put your sword back into its sheath! Or do you think that I cannot call on my Father, and that he would send me more than twelve legions of angels right now?'
John 18:12, Mark 14:50
The cohort arrested and bound Jesus, and all the disciples left him and fled.
Mark 14:51
A young man followed him with nothing on but a linen cloth.
Mark 14:51-52
They seized him, but he ran off naked, leaving his linen cloth behind.
What's up with that?
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Now I have reason to believe that the jews did not pay the guards to say the disciples stole him, for reasons being that no one was a witness but the guards and Mary, yet I won't get into that, The final appearance is what gets to me, are the disciples homosexual?
John 21:1-3
Later on, Jesus revealed himself again to his disciples by the Sea of Tiberias. This is how it happened. Simon Peter, Thomas, Nathaneal, the sons of Zebedee, and two other disciples were together. Simon Peter said, 'I am going fishing.' They replied, 'We will go with you.'
John 21:3
They went out and got in the boat, but caught nothing that night.
John 21:4-5
In the early morning, Jesus stood on the shore, though the disciples did not realize that it was Jesus. He called out, 'Haven't you caught any fish, friends?'
John 21:5-6
'No!' they answered, and Jesus said, 'Throw the net out to the right side of the boat and you'll find some.'
John 21:6-7
When they threw the net, they could not pull it in because of the quantity of fish. The disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, 'It is the Lord!'
John 21:7
Having heard that it was the Lord, Simon Peter tied his outer garment around him, for he was naked.
John 21:8
The disciples took the boat in, towing the net with the fish.
John 21:11
Simon Peter dragged the net ashore. It was full of big fish -- one hundred and fifty-three of them.
John 21:9,12
As soon as they came ashore, they saw that there was a charcoal fire with fish cooking on it, and some bread. Jesus said to them, 'Come and have breakfast.'
(Some of the fisher men did not put on clothes)
Who does this?
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What does Jesus actually teach?
Matthew 10:34
'Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth.'
Matthew 10:34
'I have not come to bring peace but a sword.'
Luke 12:49
'I have come to bring fire to the earth.'
Luke 12:49
'And how I wish it were blazing already!'
That is surely what he has done so far... But wait, isn't the Messiah suppose to bring peace? What ever, I guess anyone can find anyway to justify his words, it is one the biggest religions in the world right now...
Luke 12:51
'Do you think I have come to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but hostility!'
Luke 12:52
'From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two...'
Luke 12:52
'...and two against three.'
Matthew 10:35
'I have come to set son against father...'
Matthew 10:35
'...daughter against mother...'
Matthew 10:35
'...and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.'
Luke 14:26
'If anyone does not hate his father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.'
Well I guess JC has made his impact and got what he wanted... He's not my Messiah, but he's accomplished his goal...
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What does jesus have to say about the penis? In one issue...
Matthew 19:10
The disciples said to him, 'If this is the situation between a man and his wife, it is better not to marry.'
Matthew 19:11-12
Jesus replied, 'There are some eunuchs who were born that way, and there are some who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.'
Matthew 19:11
'Anyone who can accept this should accept it.'
Jesus thinks it's okay for a man to cut off his own penis... This is getting sick... Sorry many cannot see that Yahweh does not support self mutilation...
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The Torah instructs that we are not to covet another mans things, and we are to hold someone to their dept for at least a certain amount of time, this scripture contradicts that...
Matthew 5:41
'Give to the one who asks you, and do not reject the one who wants to borrow from you.'
Luke 6:34
'If you lend to those from whom you hope to be repaid, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners.'
Luke 6:30
'Give to everyone who asks you.'
Luke 6:30
'And do not ask for your possessions back from the person who takes them away.'
Yeah that's not going to happen... It makes sense, jesus is a communist, I will explain soon...
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Jesus offers no self defense to his followers, putting them in life threatening situations...
Matthew 5:39
'But I say to you: offer no resistance to the evildoer.'
Matthew 5:39
'If someone strikes you on the right cheek...'
Matthew 5:39
'...offer him the other as well.'
I don't see how you would get anything done...
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Jesus also changes the rules in the Torah as far as divorce when a cheating woman can be divorced, jesus offers no other alternative...
Mark 10:11
'Whoever divorces someone...'
Mark 10:11
'...and marries another...'
Mark 10:11
'...commits adultery.'
Matthew 5:32
'Whoever marries a divorced woman...'
Matthew 5:32
'...commits adultery.'
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Jesus contradicts his own teachings...
Matthew 5:22, Luke 11:42, 40, Matthew 23:17
'Anyone who says, "You fool"...'
Matthew 5:22
'...Will be subject to the fires of hell.'
Matthew 7:26
'Everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man!'
Jesus called the phrisees fools... Also the apostles changes the rules according to circumcision in Acts 15...
Paul also becomes a monk, when he "tries" to go into Asia the "holy spirit" stops him and somehow is still brought to shave his head, and protests to only deal with gentiles... He also circumcises his own apprentice after he says it's not totally lawful... Acts 15...
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I will end this one 2 seperate notes, Jesus the Communist, and Jesus the Deceptor, in his own words...
Acts 4:32
The entire group of believers held everything in common, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions. Any who owned houses or land sold them, and the money they laid at the feet of the apostles.
Acts 4:35
The money was then distributed to each according to his need.
cts 4:36-37
Joseph of Cyprus (who the apostles called Barnabas) sold some land that belonged to him.
Acts 4:37
And he brought the money and placed it at the feet of the apostles.
Acts 5:1
A man named Ananias and his wife Sapphira also sold a piece of land.
Acts 5:2
But with his wife's full knowledge, he held back part of the money.
Acts 5:2
And he brought the rest and placed it at the feet of the apostles.
Acts 5:3-4
But Peter said, 'Ananias, how could Satan so fill your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and kept some of the money? You have lied not to men, but to God!'
Acts 5:5
When he heard this, Ananias fell down dead.
(Fell dead huh?)
Acts 5:6
And a great fear came over all who heard of it.
Acts 5:6
Then the young men wrapped him up, carried him outside, and buried him.
(unlike the man was able to do with his father)
Acts 5:7
About three hours later his wife came in, unaware of what had happened.
Acts 5:8
And Peter said to her, 'Tell me, was this the amount you were paid for the land?'
Acts 5:8
And she said, 'Yes, that was the price.'
Acts 5:9
Then Peter said, 'How could you agree to test the spirit of the Lord? Listen! It is the footsteps of the men who just buried your husband, and they will carry you out as well!'
Acts 5:10
Immediately she fell dead at his feet.
(fell dead huh? Sure you didn't nudge her a bit?)
Acts 5:10
And they carried her out and buried her next to her husband.
Acts 5:11
And a great fear came over the whole church and everyone who heard about it.
(Yeah, now their killing their own followers)
This is a huge pretext for communism, and makes it right for communism to exist, now you see why preachers do what they do...
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Jesus admits to his followers that he is a deciever...
Mark 4:33-34
Using many similar parables, he spoke the word to them, as much as they could understand. He would only speak to them using parables.
Mark 4:10
When he was alone, those around him and the Twelve asked him about the parables.
Luke 8:10
He said, 'The secret of the kingdom of God is granted to you.'
Mark 4:11-12
'But to those on the outside, everything comes in parables so that they may look and look but never perceive, listen and listen but never understand.'
Mark 4:12
'Otherwise they might change their ways and be forgiven.'
(YEAH!)
Jesus admits that he speaks in parables and riddles to keep people from changing their ways... Interesting... You'd have to be quite ignorant to justify what jesus is saying... The New Testament is the great deciever, and I end with quoting the Torah again...
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Deuteronomy 13:13-15
'If you hear that in one of the towns, there are men who are telling people to go and worship other gods, it is your duty to look into the matter and examine it.'
Deuteronomy 13:15-16
'If it is proved and confirmed, you must put the inhabitants of that town to the sword.'
Deuteronomy 13:16
'You must lay the town under the curse of destruction, the town and everything in it.'
Deuteronomy 13:17
'You must pile up all its loot in the public square and burn the town and all its loot.'
Deuteronomy 13:17
'That town is to be a ruin for all time, and never rebuilt.'
There are many more stories I could go into, but decided to leave you with this, examine the New Testament, and it is your job to see that no laws contradict with the original, or even with itself... The time of blind faith is over... HalleluYahweh...
I will leave you with the different jesus' that occure in the New Testament that have a strange parallel to jesus...
Acts 13:6-7
They traveled the whole island until they came to Paphos where they met a Jewish magician and false prophet named Son of Jesus, an attendant of the proconsul Sergius Paulus.
Matthew 27:17
So when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, "Which one do you want me to release to you: Barabbas, or Jesus who is called Christ?"
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"The New Testament (Greek: Καινή Διαθήκη, Kainē Diathēkē) is the name given to the final portion of the Jewish Bible, written after the Old Testament. It is sometimes called the Greek Testament or Greek Scriptures, or the New Covenant – which is the literal translation of the original Greek. The original texts were written in Koine Greek by various unknown authors"
"During the last century, the critics of Germany have assailed the Apocalypse, denying, in the most positive terms, that it can have been written by the apostle John. Thus De Wette says: ‘Nothing stands so firm as that the apostle John—if he be the writer of the Gospel, and the first Epistle—did not write the Apocalypse;’ and Ewald says: ‘That the Apocalypse was not written by the same hand which wrote the Gospel and the Epistle, is clear as the light of the sun.’ The principal objection to the Johannean origin of the Apocalypse grows out of its style—its peculiar words and phrases; an argument by which this class of critics have shown themselves able to prove or disprove almost anything; by which they have proved that Moses did not write the Pentateuch, nor Daniel his prophecies, nor the Evangelists the Gospels which bear their names; by which they have proved that Homer did not write his poems, nor Plato his dialogues, nor Cicero but a part of his orations."
I will use the New Testament against Jesus in multiple ways, this time it's personal... Let's use Jesus own text against him... I will start off light, and make things a bit more harsh...
The first story I will start with is the ignorance of the jews, who declare jesus to be the Son of God, after nothing more than a fling of his limb...
John 1:35-36
The next day John was standing with two of his disciples. When he saw Jesus passing by, he said, 'Look, the Lamb of God!'
John 1:37
When the two disciples heard him say this, they followed Jesus.
John 1:38-39
They said, 'Rabbi, where are you staying?' And he said to them, 'Come and see.'
John 1:39
So they came and saw where he was staying, and they stayed with him that day, it being four o'clock in the afternoon.
John 1:40-41
Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, was one of the two who had followed Jesus. The first thing Andrew did was to find his brother Simon and tell him, 'We have found the messiah.'
John 1:42
Andrew brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, 'You are Simon son of John. You will be called Cephas' (which translates as Peter).
John 1:43-44
The next day Jesus decided to leave for Galilee. He found Philip, he said to him, 'Follow me.' Philip was from Bethsaida, the town of Andrew and Peter.
John 1:45
Philip found Nathanael and told him, 'We have found the one Moses wrote about in the Law, and the prophets: Jesus the son of Joseph who is from Nazareth.'
John 1:46
'Nazareth?' asked Nathanael, 'Can anything good come from there?' 'Come and see!' said Philip.
John 1:47
Jesus saw Nathanael coming toward him and exclaimed, 'Look, a true Israelite in whom there is no deceit!'
John 1:48
Nathanael asked him, 'How do you know me?' Jesus replied, 'Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you.'
John 1:49
Nathanael answered him, 'Rabbi, you are the Son of God. You are the King of Israel!'
John 1:50
Jesus said to him, 'Because I told you that I saw you under the fig tree, do you believe? You will see greater things than these.'
The ignorance already shown, this man has already broken the Law of the Torah...
Deuteronomy 13:1
'If a prophet arises among you offering some sign or wonder...'
Deuteronomy 13:2
'...and if he then tells you to follow other gods and worship them...'
Deuteronomy 13:3-4
'Do not listen to that prophet's words. Yahweh your God is testing you to find out if you love him with all your heart and soul.'
Deuteronomy 13:6
'That prophet must be put to death. You must banish this evil from among you.'
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In reality Jesus never turns water into wine, apparently the guests are just too drunk to notice...
John 2:1-2
Now on the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’s mother was there, and Jesus and his disciples were also invited to the wedding.
John 2:3
When the wine ran out, Jesus’s mother said to him, 'They have no more wine.'
John 2:4
Jesus replied, 'Woman, what have I to do with you? My time has not yet come.'
John 2:5
His mother said to the servants, 'Whatever he tells you, do it.'
John 2:6-7
Now there were six stone water jars there, each holding twenty or thirty gallons. Jesus told the servants, 'Fill the water jars with water.'
John 2:7-8
They filled them up to the very top. Then Jesus said to them, 'Now draw some out and carry it to the master steward.'
John 2:9-10
When the master steward tasted the water that had been turned to wine, he called the bridegroom and said to him, 'Everyone serves the good wine first, and then the inferior wine when the guests are drunk. You have kept the good wine until now!'
John 2:11
Jesus did this as the first of his miraculous signs. In this way he displayed his glory, and his disciples believed in him.
How does this magician do this?
I didn't hold it against him that he was jesus, but I wanted to get a christians point of view on this, and he supports the theory that jesus did not make real alchohol...
Did jesus really turn water into wine? Or just water? Christians seem not to want to portray jesus as a drinker, so they support that he would not do such a thing to make the guests drunker than they were... But this is story I used for because it is so contraversal...
"The immediate context of John 2:1-11 is quite clear. The guests at the marriage feast of Cana were able to discern between the quality of the drink that the Lord had made and that which had already been served. If intoxicating wine had been served, and people "well drunk" or "drunk freely" (American Standard Version,1901) of it (verse 10), then they would not have had such keen discernment. Though the amount is not specified as to what they had previously drunk, if they consumed the six waterpots that Jesus had the servants fill with water and which contained "two or three firkins apiece" (verse 6), then they would have consumed somewhere between 106 to 162 gallons of booze! This is far more than enough to make the most casual drinker drunk. Those who twist this account to condone social drinking say the term "well drunk" refers to the idea that the crowd was so drunk that they could not distinguish. However, the point of "the governor of the feast" to the bridegroom is that the guests were able to discern between the "worse" and the "good wine." If it is the case that these wedding guests were so drunk that they could not distinguish, then the Lord made the six pots of alcoholic beverage for those who were already strongly under the influence, and caused them to be even more drunk! Thus, the "good wine" of the wedding feast of Canaan must have been the fresh juice of the grape."
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Jesus is chased out of Nazareth because
Mark 6:1
Jesus left there and came to his hometown, and his disciples followed him.
Mark 6:2, John 14:6
When the Sabbath came, he began to teach in the synagogue. 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'
Mark 6:2
Many who heard him were astonished and said, 'Where did he get these ideas?'
Mark 6:3
'Isn’t this the carpenter? The son of Mary and brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon? And aren’t his sisters here with us?'
Luke 4:28-29
The people in the synagogue were furious. They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the edge of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him down the cliff.
Mark 6:5, Luke 4:30
He could do no miracle there, but he slipped through the crowd and went on his way.
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Jesus does not even let a man bury his own father before going with him, he lets the man rot in the sun... This is actually against the torah...
Luke 5:27
When Jesus went out after this, he noticed a tax collector named Levi sitting at the tax office, and said to him, 'Follow me.'
Luke 5:28
Leaving everything, Levi got up and followed him.
Matthew 9:9
As Jesus was walking on from there he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax office, and he said to him, 'Follow me.'
Matthew 9:9
And he got up and followed him.
Matthew 8:21
Another one of his disciples said to him, 'Lord, let me go and bury my father first.'
Matthew 8:22
But Jesus said, 'Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their dead.'
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Jesus never walks on water, in fact it is too dark for the disciples to realize that they had made it to shore where jesus was standing on the beach...
John 6:16-17
When evening came, his disciples went down to the lake, got into a boat and set off across the lake for Capernum.
John 6:17-18
By now it was dark, and Jesus had not yet joined them. A strong wind blew and the waters grew rough.
John 6:19
When they had rowed three or four miles, they saw Jesus approaching the boat, walking on the sea.
John 6:19-20
They were terrified, but Jesus said to them, 'Don't be afraid.'
John 6:21
Then they wanted to take him into the boat, but immediately the boat reached the shore where they were heading.
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I'd say one of the most contraversal passages about jesus... Remember I said one... His own mother thinks that he has gone mad, this suggests that in reality no holy ghost ever told Mary that jesus would be messiah or king of jew, or even a prophet, her reaction was to someone who had a baby out of wedlock with Joesph...
Mark 3:20
Jesus went home again, and once more such a crowd collected that they could not even have a meal.
Matthew 12:46
He was still speaking to the crowds when his mother and brothers were standing outside and were anxious to speak with him.
Luke 8:19
But they could not get to him because of the crowd.
Luke 8:20
Jesus was told, 'Your mother and brothers are standing outside and want to see you.'
Matthew 12:48
But to the man who told him this, Jesus replied, 'Who is my mother and who are my brothers?' And pointing toward his disciples, he said, 'Here are my mother and brothers: anyone who does the will of my Father in heaven.'
Mark 3:21
When his family heard of this, they went to take custody of him. They said, 'He is out of his mind!'
It is at this time that the truth about jesus is revealed...
And the teachers of the law who came down from Jerusalem said, "He is possessed by Beelzebub[c]! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons."
3So Jesus called them and spoke to them in parables: "How can Satan drive out Satan?
Well if Satan is the prince of demons, I would assume they do what ever he says...
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Jesus looses many of his desciples when they suspect that he practices cannablism...
John 6:59,48
This is what Jesus taught at the synagogue in Capernaum: 'I am the bread of life.'
John 6:49,51
'Your fathers ate manna in the desert and they are dead. I am the living bread. Anyone who eats this bread will live forever. And the bread that I shall give is my flesh.'
John 6:52
Then the Jews started arguing amongst themselves, 'How can this man give us his flesh to eat?'
John 6:53
Jesus replied to them, 'In truth I tell you, if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man or drink his blood, you have no life in you.'
John 6:60
After hearing this, many of his followers said, 'This is intolerable language. How could anyone accept it?'
John 6:66
After this, many of his disciples went away and accompanied him no more.
Hmm John 666... Interesting...
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Jesus practices voodoo? He doesn't ressurect, but he only reanimates, that is actually the technical term for a zombie...
John 11:1-3
Mary and Martha, whose brother Lazarus now lay sick, sent word to Jesus, 'Lord, the one you love is sick.'
John 11:4
When Jesus heard this, he said, 'This sickness will not end in death.'
John 11:5
Jesus loved Martha and her sister and Lazarus. Yet when he heard that Lazarus was sick, he stayed where he was two more days.
John 11:7, 14
Then he said to his disciples, 'Let's go back to Judea. Lazarus is dead.'
John 11:17, 20-21
When Jesus arrived, Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days. Martha came out to meet him and said, 'Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died!'
John 11:28, 32
Martha went and called her sister, and when Mary came to where Jesus was, she fell at his feet and said, 'Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died!'
John 11:33, 35
When Jesus saw Mary weeping and the weeping of the Jews who had come with her, he was deeply troubled and distressed. Jesus wept.
John 11:36-37
Some of the Jews said, 'Couldn't he have done something to keep Lazarus from dying?'
John 11:38-39
Jesus came to the tomb. It was a cave with a stone laid across the entrance. 'Take away the stone,' he said.
John 11:39
Martha, the sister of the dead man, said 'Lord, by this time there is a stench, for he has been there four days.'
John 11:40-43
They took away the stone and Jesus called in a loud voice, 'Lazarus, come out!'
John 11:44
The dead man came out bound hand and foot with linen strips and with his face wrapped in a cloth.
John 11:44
Jesus said to them, 'Unwrap him and let him go.'
Yeah that had to be a unpleasent experience yet, it doesn't stop there...
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Jesus has dinner with a dead man, yet that wasn't the most amusing factor, maybe it was because they can argue without noticing his stenching presense..
John 12:1, Matthew 26:6, John 12:2
Six days before the Passover, Jesus was in Bethany at the house of Simon the leper. And Lazarus was among those present at the table.
Mark 14:3, Matthew 26:7
A woman came with an alabaster jar of expensive aromatic oil made from pure nard, and she poured it on his head as he was at the table.
Mark 14:4-5
But some expressed indignance, saying to one another, 'Why this waste? It could have been sold for more than three hundred silver coins and the money given to the poor!'
Mark 14:6
But Jesus said, 'You will always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me!'
John 12:3
Then Mary took a pound of expensive aromatic oil from pure nard and anointed the feet of Jesus.
John 12:4-5
And one of the disciples, Judas Iscariot, said, 'Why wasn’t this oil sold for three hundred silver coins and the money given to the poor?'
John 12:7-8
And Jesus said, 'You will always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me!'
He has a rich man give up all his money to serve him, yet he does this... He better be important.. It doesn't stop here... And can we get the dead man out the house?
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The famous story of jesus cursing a tree for no reason, thought I should add it...
Mark 11:12-13
The next day, as they went out from Bethany, Jesus was hungry. He noticed a fig tree with leaves in the distance.
Mark 11:13-14
He went to see if he could find any fruit on it, but when he came to it he found nothing but leaves, for it was not the season for figs.
Mark 11:14
Jesus said to the tree, 'May no one ever eat fruit from you again.' And the disciples heard this.
Matthew 21:19
And the fig tree withered at once.
Mark 11:21
Peter said to him, 'Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered.'
It's the power you have, it's how you use it... Yet we won't get into this now...
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So here is one of my favorites, Jesus explains when the end of the world will occure...
Mark 13:1
As he was leaving the temple, one of his disciples said to him, 'Teacher, look! What stones! What buildings!'
Mark 13:2
'Do you see all these great buildings?' replied Jesus. 'Not one stone here will be left on another. They will all be thrown down!'
Matthew 24:3
As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately and said, 'Tell us when these things will happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of this age?'
Matthew 24:7
Jesus answered them, 'Nation will rise against nation...'
Matthew 24:7
'...and kingdom against kingdom.'
Luke 21:11
'There will be great earthquakes...'
Luke 21:11
'...famines...'
Luke 21:11
'...and plagues in various places.'
Matthew 24:9
'Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.'
Mark 13:12
'Brother will hand over brother to death, and a father his child.'
Mark 13:12
'Children will rise against parents and have them put to death.'
Luke 21:23-24
'Woe to those who are pregnant or nursing babies in those days! They will fall by the edge of the sword.'
Matthew 24:21
'There will be great suffering unlike anything that has happened from the beginning of the world until now, or ever will happen.'
Matthew 24:29-30, 16:27
'Immeditaely after the suffering of those days, they will see the Son of Man arriving on the clouds of the sky with his angels, with power and great glory.'
Matthew 24:31
'And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet blast.'
Mark 13:27
'And they will gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.'
Matthew 13:41
'And the Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather from his kingdom all things that offend and those who practice lawlessness.
Matthew 13:42
'And they will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
Matthew 24:3, Mark 13:4
And the disciples asked him , 'Tell us, when is this going to happen?'
Matthew 24:34
'I tell you the truth: this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.'
Matthew 16:28
'I tell you the truth: some standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.'
Umm wow?! Jesus says the end of the world would occure 2000 years ago? The men standing next to him would experience armageddon, the end of days, and the return of the Messiah? Well, I think he missed the train by a couple thousand years, those men are long dead...
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I have question for the last supper, was jesus really naked?
Matthew 26:18
Jesus said, 'Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, 'The Teacher says, "My time is near. I will observe the Passover with my disciples at your house."'
Matthew 26:19
So the disciples did as Jesus had instructed them, and they prepared the Passover.
Matthew 26:20
When it was evening, he took his place at the table with the twelve.
Matthew 26:26
As they were eating, Jesus took bread and gave it to the disciples. 'Take it and eat,' he said.
Matthew 26:26
'This is my body.'
Matthew 26:27
Then he took a cup, and handed it to them saying, 'Drink from this, all of you.'
Matthew 26:27
'For this is my blood.'
John 13:4
Jesus got up from the meal, removed his outer clothes, took a towel and wrapped it around his waist.
John 13:5
He poured water into the basin and began to wash the disciples’ feet and to dry them with the towel he had wrapped around him.
John 13:6
But Peter said, 'You shall never wash my feet, ever!'
John 13:10
Jesus answered, 'He who has bathed needs only to wash his feet.'
John 13:12,15,13
When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. 'I have set example. You should do as I have done for you. You should wash one another's feet.'
What makes me think he was naked?
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When jesus is arrested...
Matthew 26:49
He went up to Jesus at once and said, 'Greetings, Rabbi,' and kissed him.
Luke 22:49
His followers, seeing what was about to happen, said, 'Lord, shall we use our swords?'
John 18:10
Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, pulled it out and struck the high priest’s slave, cutting off his right ear. The slave’s name was Malchus.
John 18:11
But Jesus said to Peter, 'Put your sword back into its sheath! Or do you think that I cannot call on my Father, and that he would send me more than twelve legions of angels right now?'
John 18:12, Mark 14:50
The cohort arrested and bound Jesus, and all the disciples left him and fled.
Mark 14:51
A young man followed him with nothing on but a linen cloth.
Mark 14:51-52
They seized him, but he ran off naked, leaving his linen cloth behind.
What's up with that?
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Now I have reason to believe that the jews did not pay the guards to say the disciples stole him, for reasons being that no one was a witness but the guards and Mary, yet I won't get into that, The final appearance is what gets to me, are the disciples homosexual?
John 21:1-3
Later on, Jesus revealed himself again to his disciples by the Sea of Tiberias. This is how it happened. Simon Peter, Thomas, Nathaneal, the sons of Zebedee, and two other disciples were together. Simon Peter said, 'I am going fishing.' They replied, 'We will go with you.'
John 21:3
They went out and got in the boat, but caught nothing that night.
John 21:4-5
In the early morning, Jesus stood on the shore, though the disciples did not realize that it was Jesus. He called out, 'Haven't you caught any fish, friends?'
John 21:5-6
'No!' they answered, and Jesus said, 'Throw the net out to the right side of the boat and you'll find some.'
John 21:6-7
When they threw the net, they could not pull it in because of the quantity of fish. The disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, 'It is the Lord!'
John 21:7
Having heard that it was the Lord, Simon Peter tied his outer garment around him, for he was naked.
John 21:8
The disciples took the boat in, towing the net with the fish.
John 21:11
Simon Peter dragged the net ashore. It was full of big fish -- one hundred and fifty-three of them.
John 21:9,12
As soon as they came ashore, they saw that there was a charcoal fire with fish cooking on it, and some bread. Jesus said to them, 'Come and have breakfast.'
(Some of the fisher men did not put on clothes)
Who does this?
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What does Jesus actually teach?
Matthew 10:34
'Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth.'
Matthew 10:34
'I have not come to bring peace but a sword.'
Luke 12:49
'I have come to bring fire to the earth.'
Luke 12:49
'And how I wish it were blazing already!'
That is surely what he has done so far... But wait, isn't the Messiah suppose to bring peace? What ever, I guess anyone can find anyway to justify his words, it is one the biggest religions in the world right now...
Luke 12:51
'Do you think I have come to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but hostility!'
Luke 12:52
'From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two...'
Luke 12:52
'...and two against three.'
Matthew 10:35
'I have come to set son against father...'
Matthew 10:35
'...daughter against mother...'
Matthew 10:35
'...and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.'
Luke 14:26
'If anyone does not hate his father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.'
Well I guess JC has made his impact and got what he wanted... He's not my Messiah, but he's accomplished his goal...
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What does jesus have to say about the penis? In one issue...
Matthew 19:10
The disciples said to him, 'If this is the situation between a man and his wife, it is better not to marry.'
Matthew 19:11-12
Jesus replied, 'There are some eunuchs who were born that way, and there are some who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.'
Matthew 19:11
'Anyone who can accept this should accept it.'
Jesus thinks it's okay for a man to cut off his own penis... This is getting sick... Sorry many cannot see that Yahweh does not support self mutilation...
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The Torah instructs that we are not to covet another mans things, and we are to hold someone to their dept for at least a certain amount of time, this scripture contradicts that...
Matthew 5:41
'Give to the one who asks you, and do not reject the one who wants to borrow from you.'
Luke 6:34
'If you lend to those from whom you hope to be repaid, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners.'
Luke 6:30
'Give to everyone who asks you.'
Luke 6:30
'And do not ask for your possessions back from the person who takes them away.'
Yeah that's not going to happen... It makes sense, jesus is a communist, I will explain soon...
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Jesus offers no self defense to his followers, putting them in life threatening situations...
Matthew 5:39
'But I say to you: offer no resistance to the evildoer.'
Matthew 5:39
'If someone strikes you on the right cheek...'
Matthew 5:39
'...offer him the other as well.'
I don't see how you would get anything done...
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Jesus also changes the rules in the Torah as far as divorce when a cheating woman can be divorced, jesus offers no other alternative...
Mark 10:11
'Whoever divorces someone...'
Mark 10:11
'...and marries another...'
Mark 10:11
'...commits adultery.'
Matthew 5:32
'Whoever marries a divorced woman...'
Matthew 5:32
'...commits adultery.'
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Jesus contradicts his own teachings...
Matthew 5:22, Luke 11:42, 40, Matthew 23:17
'Anyone who says, "You fool"...'
Matthew 5:22
'...Will be subject to the fires of hell.'
Matthew 7:26
'Everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man!'
Jesus called the phrisees fools... Also the apostles changes the rules according to circumcision in Acts 15...
Paul also becomes a monk, when he "tries" to go into Asia the "holy spirit" stops him and somehow is still brought to shave his head, and protests to only deal with gentiles... He also circumcises his own apprentice after he says it's not totally lawful... Acts 15...
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I will end this one 2 seperate notes, Jesus the Communist, and Jesus the Deceptor, in his own words...
Acts 4:32
The entire group of believers held everything in common, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions. Any who owned houses or land sold them, and the money they laid at the feet of the apostles.
Acts 4:35
The money was then distributed to each according to his need.
cts 4:36-37
Joseph of Cyprus (who the apostles called Barnabas) sold some land that belonged to him.
Acts 4:37
And he brought the money and placed it at the feet of the apostles.
Acts 5:1
A man named Ananias and his wife Sapphira also sold a piece of land.
Acts 5:2
But with his wife's full knowledge, he held back part of the money.
Acts 5:2
And he brought the rest and placed it at the feet of the apostles.
Acts 5:3-4
But Peter said, 'Ananias, how could Satan so fill your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and kept some of the money? You have lied not to men, but to God!'
Acts 5:5
When he heard this, Ananias fell down dead.
(Fell dead huh?)
Acts 5:6
And a great fear came over all who heard of it.
Acts 5:6
Then the young men wrapped him up, carried him outside, and buried him.
(unlike the man was able to do with his father)
Acts 5:7
About three hours later his wife came in, unaware of what had happened.
Acts 5:8
And Peter said to her, 'Tell me, was this the amount you were paid for the land?'
Acts 5:8
And she said, 'Yes, that was the price.'
Acts 5:9
Then Peter said, 'How could you agree to test the spirit of the Lord? Listen! It is the footsteps of the men who just buried your husband, and they will carry you out as well!'
Acts 5:10
Immediately she fell dead at his feet.
(fell dead huh? Sure you didn't nudge her a bit?)
Acts 5:10
And they carried her out and buried her next to her husband.
Acts 5:11
And a great fear came over the whole church and everyone who heard about it.
(Yeah, now their killing their own followers)
This is a huge pretext for communism, and makes it right for communism to exist, now you see why preachers do what they do...
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Jesus admits to his followers that he is a deciever...
Mark 4:33-34
Using many similar parables, he spoke the word to them, as much as they could understand. He would only speak to them using parables.
Mark 4:10
When he was alone, those around him and the Twelve asked him about the parables.
Luke 8:10
He said, 'The secret of the kingdom of God is granted to you.'
Mark 4:11-12
'But to those on the outside, everything comes in parables so that they may look and look but never perceive, listen and listen but never understand.'
Mark 4:12
'Otherwise they might change their ways and be forgiven.'
(YEAH!)
Jesus admits that he speaks in parables and riddles to keep people from changing their ways... Interesting... You'd have to be quite ignorant to justify what jesus is saying... The New Testament is the great deciever, and I end with quoting the Torah again...
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Deuteronomy 13:13-15
'If you hear that in one of the towns, there are men who are telling people to go and worship other gods, it is your duty to look into the matter and examine it.'
Deuteronomy 13:15-16
'If it is proved and confirmed, you must put the inhabitants of that town to the sword.'
Deuteronomy 13:16
'You must lay the town under the curse of destruction, the town and everything in it.'
Deuteronomy 13:17
'You must pile up all its loot in the public square and burn the town and all its loot.'
Deuteronomy 13:17
'That town is to be a ruin for all time, and never rebuilt.'
There are many more stories I could go into, but decided to leave you with this, examine the New Testament, and it is your job to see that no laws contradict with the original, or even with itself... The time of blind faith is over... HalleluYahweh...
I will leave you with the different jesus' that occure in the New Testament that have a strange parallel to jesus...
Acts 13:6-7
They traveled the whole island until they came to Paphos where they met a Jewish magician and false prophet named Son of Jesus, an attendant of the proconsul Sergius Paulus.
Matthew 27:17
So when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, "Which one do you want me to release to you: Barabbas, or Jesus who is called Christ?"
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